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Nick


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They're paying $6.5 million total for goaltending for this year and the next two. In the fourth year of Thomas' deal, he goes down to $3M and the no-trade clause disappears, which is when Rask is due a new contract. Solid planning, I'd say, and most teams who have won the cup in the past few years have had two solid goalies (Fleury/Conklin, Osgood/Hasek, Giguere/Bryzgalov, Ward/Gerber, and so on). I don't think this hurts them as much as, say, Michael Felger thinks. Vokoun makes as much in Florida as Rask and Thomas combined. Luongo and Brodeur both make north of $7M. Locking those two in for that price total for another two years after this, and goaltending is the least of their problems. (And I love both like my kids, for the record).

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You forgot Satan and Ference and Paille and...

Of the non-goalies who aren't in a hospital room right now, I think Chara, Bergeron, Thornton, Recchi, Stuart and Sturm care. The rest don't. I'm giving Lucic the benefit of the doubt because he's had no rhythm all year with the different injuries. He was actually bumping people last night and taking shots, I think he might even be over-thinking it at this point. I don't think he's settling. Those high-ankle injuries throws hockey players completely off their axis, which explains why his hits and speed haven't been there the way they should be. He might even be playing hurt right now.

Semi-related... have you seen how different he looks now, physically? This is why I don't think he quit against Orr, and Cherry was wrong. When he took that last punch, he looked like he went into shock. Orr literally broke his face. His upper lip and nose look like it came from a different person now.

He'll come around, but I don't think it'll be this year.

Now... I think I have to go throw up.

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yeah, you're right about the goalie tandems i guess- i can see your point...

and Lucic has definately been hurt and he seems overweight... but here is a side-note tale...

my favorite Bruin of all-time was Randy Burridge... i loved him... he wasn't a fighter or a tough guy but he played the game right. i went into a deep depression when they traded him (for Steve Leach...) and he actually scored 30+ for the Caps and made the all-star team... i bought tickets for the first game the Caps came to town to see Burridge play and then learned the night before the game that he had been traded to LA.

i remember against the Habs when the B's were playing like ****... Burridge flipped the puck into the corner, Roy came out to play and Burridge ran him. (he actually just checked him into the boards but he made his point...) Burridge was then jumped by the entire Habs team and was public enemy #1 in Montreal for a few games... when asked why he did this, Burridge said something like "they stopped respecting us and they were all a little too comfortable out there..."

where is that fight for the Bruins? why didn't anyone last night make any Penguin feel uncomfortable? was there any goal-mouth scrums? any face-washing? did anyone on Pittsburgh feel uncomfortable last night- even Matt Cooke?

guys like Blake Wheeler drive me crazy because they expect Shawm Thorton and Milan Lucic and Stuart to take care of the rough-stuff while they skate up and down their wing... Burridge didn't wait for Jay Miller or LB to goafter Roy and make a statement- he did it himself... i was expecting a Ryder or a Wheeler or Paille to do something but, ugh, nothing.

someone needs to pay for this team... i think it should be Julien or maybe eventually Chirelli... there is a true lack of character on the ice.

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As a little guy, I too loved Burridge. And he did play the game the right way, and I never got behind Steve Leach. He was ok, but he didn't have that same spirit.

Something's definitely missing. I'd be surprised if Julien was let go now, but there will be changes this offseason. And maybe that's coming faster than they want. Right now, they remind me of the 93-94 Bruins. One Norris-type defenseman (Bourque/Chara), one solid defenseman (Wesley/Stuart), strong down the center (Bergeron-Krecji/Oates-Smolinski), too many guys hurt (Neely/Lucic-Savard), and then a big bucket of who-gives-a-sh!t filling it out.

I don't know. I'm going to go do a bunch of push-ups and yell now.

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while your comparisson is accurate and i like it, those teams from the early to mid-90s at least had the memories of some stanley cup finals to hang their hats/helmets on... these guys have the fact they had the most points in the Eastern Conference once... wow...




my beef with Julien is he seems a bit out of touch all of a sudden... even if the entire team came down with the flu and even if the charter-flight had more difficulty flying in from the road trip than any plane on 9/11, a coach should not utter these as excuses in the immediate aftermath of something like last night. just swallow those excuses for a little while... totally lame...




here is the Burridge hit... i miss the ol' Stump and guys like him...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q26n1YNB4B8

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The last two wins vs. New York and Atlanta - Good!

Signing Andrew "Groin Pull" Ference to a new 3-year contract - Bad!

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Nick wrote:

The last two wins vs. New York and Atlanta - Good!

Signing Andrew "Groin Pull" Ference to a new 3-year contract - Bad!


i totally agree about ferrence... i like him... he fought avery after knocking ott on his ass, he fought sidney crosby, and he fought that long-haired weirdo in philly (what's that guy's name? damn, it escapes me right now and i'm too lazy to look it up... scott hartnell!!! him! he fought that guy too!) but he is injured way too much and it is almost always the same injury (groin, stomach etc)

granted it isn't the biggest contract in the world and is totally inline with what top-4 d-men make in this league now-a-days but his injury history and size made this deal surprising...

and yes, two wins against two teams on their heels was nice... please keep playing tuuka rask and if steve begin keeps playing his role the way he has recently (and if about 104 other things fall into place) maybe the B's can get Buffalo in the first round and have an old-school Adams Division slugfest

 



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Well... if they're going to lose, putting 51 shots on the goalie is one way where I won't walk away wanting to stab my own eyes out with a pen.

Also, over the last three games, Lucic looks like Lucic again. Now THAT's exciting!

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Lucic has played excellent lately and it is a big relief... surely some of his struggles were injury related and his timing has appeared ridiculously off...

having said that, it seems he needs a bit of a jump start each year and will end up on the 4th line for a brief spell as some sort of reminder to play his brute force style... last year he played with Yelle, Thorton, Bitz etc for a spell... this year he had Sobotka and Begin as linemates and his game has improved... now throw him with more creative players like Krechi and Satan and offensive impressiveness is the result...

well done... and last night's game sucked but their 3rd period was a bit encouraging... there was still some fight left- the B's didn't just mail it in for the final 10 minutes...

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i think sobotka wad the best player for the Bruins in the 1st half of the game vs. the Flames... he doesnt show up on the score sheet but his line played great and he threw some punishing body-checks...

i am biased, though

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6 friggin' times this year Thomas has been pulled... i'll say it again- i like the guy a lot!- but pleasepleaseplease stop playing him... that 2nd goal against buffalo (and the 3rd, actually) was awful and so deflating for the team... how many goalies get pulled 6 times in one friggin' season?!?


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